4-H Genealogy Project
Tips, Hints & Suggestions

The 4-H Name and Emblem are protected by 18-USC-707
Note: Project has NEW rules for 2008!!!
Check with your County Extension Staff or 4-H Leaders before beginning on this project!
This web site has been developed by John G. West, former Superintendent of the Vanderburgh County, IN 4-H Genealogy Project and the county fair judge for Dubois, Gibson & Warrick counties. It is hoped that it will help 4-H'ers avoid problems with completing the project and help them learn more about their family histories. The information on this site should be applicable to any county in Indiana unless specifically indicated to represent a certain county or area. If you have anything to add or have any questions, please contact me by email: mylines@evansville.net
Quick checklist to use before you enter your
genealogy notebook for the fair:
1. Be sure to read your manual, especially the project requirements and the shaded areas on pages 4 & 5.
2. Proof-read entire exhibit notebook for grammar and spelling errors.
3. Check your exhibit to make sure all the required forms and sheets are in your fair exhibit notebook and in the correct order (see shaded areas on pages 4 & 5).
4. Include your photo on the title page and your *SIGNED* record sheet (by your 4-H leader) with all eight (8) questions answered.
5. Photocopy all documents and photographs with labels to identify what it is and who it is.
Send questions to John G. West by e-mail ~ mylines@evansville.net.
This 4-H Genealogy Project Scoresheet is a revised copy that will be used during the 2007 4-H County Fair in Dubois, Gibson, Vanderburgh and Warrick Counties. [Click on the underlined words to see and print a copy of the scoresheet.]
NEW! Local Area 4-H Fair Information
Vanderburgh County 4-H Fair July 23-28, 2007 - Go here for more information & schedule of events: Vanderburgh County 4-H Fair
Warrick County 4-H Fair July 9-14, 2007 - Go here for more information & schedule of events: Warrick County 4-H Fair
Gibson County 4-H Fair July 6-14, 2007 - Go here for more information & schedule of events: Gibson County 4-H Fair
Dubois County 4-H Fair July 21-28, 2007 - Go here for more information & schedule of events: Dubois County 4-H Fair
TIP # 1:
START AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE GETTING INFORMATION!
Get a copy of your project manual, and read it thoroughly!
This project, generally requires a lot of time gathering information about your family: courthouse certificates, photos, dates & places. This requires visits with family members, going to courthouses, cemeteries, writing letters, searching the Internet. Then you need to type up the forms for your project notebook and put everything together and, finally, check everything to make sure you followed the project requirements. Most of this is not hard - it just takes time. But, it will be worth it to learn all about *YOUR* family!
TIP # 2:
During the second or third year of the "new" state genealogy
project, the manual was revised slightly adding a new
form: "The 4-H Member's Additional Information Worksheet"
that was better designed for the 4-H'er. When they made
that additional form, the people making the revisions
overlooked the fact that "Additional Information
Worksheets" would now be Four (4) instead of Three (3).
"Three (3) 'Additional Information Worksheets':
- for you, the 4-H member
- one (1) for your parents
- one (1) for each set of grandparents"
[THIS LAST ONE IS ACTUALLY TWO - ONE FOR EACH SET OF GRANDPARENTS]
Be sure to use the special sheet for you as the 4-H Member
(The 4-H Member's Additional Information Worksheet).
TIP # 3:
Some family situations are sad or sensitive,
ask me about it.
A question from a parent (amended) ~
After looking at the project exhibits at the fair, does 4-H require
complete birth/death certificates, etc., on all family members?
I ask because a family member left his family many years ago and what documents we had on his family were lost in a tragedy several years ago. I suspect it's impossible - and, perhaps, undesirable - for us to get any documentation on his
family. Would the 4-H'ers be penalized if they don't have documentation (birth/death certificates and more) for this part of their family tree? Strange question, but it's one I would rather know now before enrolling the kids in the project.
My Answer ~
Your question is not at all strange and is often asked by those interested in working on this project. It is necessary to document the lineage of all families to "prove" that it is correct. I wished that the state project did not require document photocopies of all direct ancestors required for each division. However, citing the source (documentation) of all names, dates and places is necessary, as I have said to establish a true family line. The state requirement of photocopies of documentation does not include all family members, only the direct ancestors - parents, grandparents, great grandparents, etc.
This may sound like a little lecture, but it is not impossible to find the recorded documents for that ancestor. It is very tragic to lose important papers and other possessions in a fire, flood, tornado or other catastrophe. However, all of the lost records should be available at the courthouses or offices of vital statistics in each county where the events of birth, marriage and death occurred. *Here comes the part that might sound like a lecture* This person is still one of your ancestors and no matter what they may have done - that person, parents and grandparents are still your ancestors and the ancestors to your children.
A big part of this project is to learn about your family - all lines! Even if someone has done the research in the family, parts of the family history will still require some research in libraries, courthouses and other places, such as, cemeteries. The best part of this project is learning your family history - the good and the bad. All of which plays a role in who you are today. Your kids should know about all of their family; and, usually, the bad parts do not need to be included with the exhibit or told to your children until they are ready to know.
The project manual is a very good, brief and easy to understand, genealogy primer on how to do family history. If you do not know where to begin on studying your family, email me and I will help you and your 4-H member to get off to a good start.
Good luck and I hope your kids sign up for the project.
John G. West, mylines@evansville.net
Former Vanderburgh County 4-H Genealogy Project Superintendent
TIP # 4:
This is part of an email, I got back in 1999 concerning Division One of this project.
Dear Mr. West, we have a few questions about the Genealogy Project:
1. We can not find a date on the genealogy manual that was given to us this year, how do we know if it is the right one?
My answer: This was easy to answer in 1999, but I am not sure what today's answer should be. I will contact the state 4-H Office at Purdue to get that answer for here. Look on the back side of the manual near the bottom - the current manual has "REV. 8/95" just above and to the right of the wording at the bottom.
2. Is the Genealogy Record Sheet, Form 4-H 748A, to be included in the notebook or turned in separately?
My answer: The record sheet needs all eight questions answered as complete as possible (make sure that your 4-H Leader signs the sheet)and place it in the notebook as the last page. However, if you send your notebook to the State Fair take the record sheet out, it is only for the county level.
3. We have been keeping a diary of work completed. The shaded areas on pages 4 and 5 say this should be the last item in the notebook, but neither the manual or the 4-H handbook lists this form as a requirement for Div. I. Should it be included in the notebook exhibit?
No, the diary is not required for Division One and should not be included in the exhibit. I think it is a good idea to keep the diary, however, and include it in your Division Two exhibit. Avoid adding anything to the exhibit that is not required - it distracts from judging and if it is done incorrectly or poorly, it may count against you! By the way, The shaded areas on pages 4 & 5 of your manual need to be followed, as well as, the project requirements. There are other items within your manual that you need to know, since it tells you how to do your exhibit. This makes reading the entire manual very important to improve your exhibit for higher score and help you to find information about your family.
HINT # 1:
This is a Judge's Hint concerning "Extent and Evidence of Supplemental Information" which is basically the documentation or proof to back up what you have on your Pedigree, Family Group Sheets & Additional Information Worksheets. Make every effort to include the preferred document in each of the categories listed for each person listed on your Pedigree Chart as may apply to that person.
The list starts with the preferred type of document in italics & underlined (these come from the county offices in the courthouse of where the event occurred).
BIRTH: Birth Certificate, Hospital Birth Record, Baptismal or Christening document (you can use marriage record, death certificate, obituary or tombstone for date of birth, but these records come later and usually are not reported by a witness to the birth).
MARRIAGE: Marriage Application, License & Certificate, Minister/Priest Marriage Certificate, Newspaper account/report of the marriage ceremony.
DEATH: Death Certificate, obituary, funeral card or tombstone.
EDUCATION, MILITARY, PHOTOS.
Photocopy & Label all documents and photos!

Some Genealogical Internet Links
USGenWeb Project
INGenWeb Project
KYGenWeb Project
Willard Library
Browning Obits


Cyndi's
List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet


The link below goes to a site I have developed over
the years to provide examples of what can be found on
the Internet for genealogical research of your family history.
***Latest Revision***
Willard
Library/TSGS
Internet Genealogy Demonstration
Live Online Demo I presented at Willard -
this is a list of my favorite and most important
genealogical links used in the Demo.
Web Sites for Southwestern Indiana County Extension Offices:
National 4-H Council
Clover Corner News - 4-H's national online newsletter
4-H Mall

Created by John G. West
<mylines@evansville.net>
Last Modified: Sunday, May 4 2008
The 4-H Name and Emblem are protected by 18-USC-707